Subject: Re: Mac OS X and netatalk...
From: Matthew Keller (kellermg@potsdam.edu)
Date: Thu Apr 05 2001 - 23:57:51 EDT
At 1:23 Uhr +0200 04.04.2001, QUIGLEY,JASON (HP-Spain,ex1 wrote:
> I think the general impression that I get is that nobody really has a
> clue what's at fault and as the jocks on source forge don't really
> care too much about anything other Linux, those of us who like to
> run stable setups are in for a long wait for a resolution.
Mr Quigley,
Perhaps you'd like to volunteer to help submit bugfixes. I don't see any
contributions by you at all, yet you have the gall to accuse the "jocks
on sourceforge" of anything? The "jocks on sourceforge" use whichever
machines they have and know. We've got people using Solaris, FreeBSD,
and Linux on 4 architectures that I know of working on the code- Some
people are working on MacOSX, HPUX and other platforms too. Instead of
contributing to the FUD and poo hooing those who are working to make
this product better, perhaps you can contribute. Don't give me any of
this "I've submitted patches but they all get rejected" like many of
your ilk do - Because I can verify that your name has not come up on a
single line of submitted code.
I hate politics. More than hating politics I hate people who have
platform zealousy issues. If you feel that whichever platform you're
using is under-represented among the "jocks on sourceforge", perhaps you
could bring yourself down to our/their level and contribute. Not a
single "jock on sourceforge" has any grudge against any platform - Sure,
we all have preferences - But to insinuate that we/they intentionally
ignore or "code against" a certain platform is beyond ludicrous- Not too
mention rude.
Furthermore, perhaps you noticed a certain three (3) letters in the
names of the releases that the "jocks on sourceforge" have made. "PRE".
"PRE" means "THIS FUCKING SHIT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO WORK YET BECAUSE WE'RE
STILL DEVELOPING IT SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ***CONSTRUCTIVE*** TO
SAY OR CODE TO CONTRIBUTE BACK THE FUCK OFF". *straightening jacket* The
code coming out of the **PRE** 1.5 tree is considered alpha quality at
best - Somedays a good Beta quality.
We all have wishlists. We all would like Netatalk to be *the* AppleShare
server on ALL *IXish machines. We would like to have a lot of success,
meet 100% of peoples feature requests, and in general have a fun time
doing it - And it's getting there. Slowly.
So, Mr. Quigley, although your views and opinions are welcome - I'll be
the last person to suppress that - I think you should get your facts in
line before making inflammatory statements about the people who are
trying to make a product you *CONSUME* as good as it can be- People,
mind you, who aren't getting paid for this. People who do it so that
they can actually CONTRIBUTE to something, instead of COMPLAINING about
it. Inflammatory, derogatory statements like yours only hurts production
as it disheartens those who work hard on this project. If you aren't a
coder - That's cool - Can you write docs? Maybe English isn't your first
language so you could translate them into other languages? Perhaps you
could use a debugger and send on debugging symbols to make the
bug-hunters lives a little easier? Hell, we could all probably use
bigger harddrives, more RAM, a couple days of "pay" to take time off
from our busy lives and spend the day coding and bug-hunting, maybe an
OS X server to give us something to test on. There's a LOT of ways you
can help- And you've already found one grevious way to hurt.
--Matthew Keller Enterprise System Analyst Computing & Technology Services Information Services Division State University of NY at Potsdam
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