Subject: Re: [Jason Quigley
It's the file which contains all the addresses of people
A good way of getting into kill files is to crosspost
(and answering them)
/m
Matthew Keller wrote:
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From: Magnus Stenman (stone@lodbroker.com)
Date: Fri Apr 06 2001 - 12:42:44 EDT
whose mail gets sorted into the /dev/null mail folder
automatically.
off-topic messages... :-)
>
> For those of you interested in a case study on immaturity. What's a
> "kill file"? Is that like one of those lists people make to sound big
> and tough and list off everyone they'd like to erase from the planet?
> *chuckle* Oh I'm on a lot of those- Not since I was in High School,
> however.
>
> -----Forwarded Message-----
> From: Jason Quigley <jasonq@mac.com>
> To: Matthew Keller <kellermg@potsdam.edu>
> Subject: Re: Mac OS X and netatalk...
>
> What do you think "general impression that *I* get" means?
>
> When I talked about people not having a clue, I was commenting on the
> fact that sometimes the problem is on the server side, other times it's
> on the client side and with both sides changing so rapidly these days...
> Also, I wasn't only referring to the developers. I wholeheartedly admit
> that I don't have a clue what's going on either!
>
> From what I have seen, most of the "jocks" (which is used in a
> complementary form as one would with good pilots - you're a nerd, aren't
> you, which is why I guess you read it that way) do lean quite a bit
> towards Linux. I never suggested that any platform was ignored.
>
> When you use comments such as "many of your ilk" you are also casting
> aspersions. Listen to your own preaching.
>
> I understand what PRE means. There never has been a release version,
> though, so don't get uppity with me, especially since I don't see too
> many contributions from you either.
>
> You're in my kill file. Try and get a life you dweeb.
>
> Mr. Quigley (That's Sir to you)
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2001, at 05:57 am, Matthew Keller wrote:
>
> > At 1:23 Uhr +0200 04.04.2001, QUIGLEY,JASON (HP-Spain,ex1 wrote:
> >> I think the general impression that I get is that nobody really has a
> >> clue what's at fault and as the jocks on source forge don't really
> >> care too much about anything other Linux, those of us who like to
> >> run stable setups are in for a long wait for a resolution.
> >
> > Mr Quigley,
> >
> > Perhaps you'd like to volunteer to help submit bugfixes. I don't see any
> > contributions by you at all, yet you have the gall to accuse the "jocks
> > on sourceforge" of anything? The "jocks on sourceforge" use whichever
> > machines they have and know. We've got people using Solaris, FreeBSD,
> > and Linux on 4 architectures that I know of working on the code- Some
> > people are working on MacOSX, HPUX and other platforms too. Instead of
> > contributing to the FUD and poo hooing those who are working to make
> > this product better, perhaps you can contribute. Don't give me any of
> > this "I've submitted patches but they all get rejected" like many of
> > your ilk do - Because I can verify that your name has not come up on a
> > single line of submitted code.
> >
> > I hate politics. More than hating politics I hate people who have
> > platform zealousy issues. If you feel that whichever platform you're
> > using is under-represented among the "jocks on sourceforge", perhaps you
> > could bring yourself down to our/their level and contribute. Not a
> > single "jock on sourceforge" has any grudge against any platform - Sure,
> > we all have preferences - But to insinuate that we/they intentionally
> > ignore or "code against" a certain platform is beyond ludicrous- Not too
> > mention rude.
> >
> > Furthermore, perhaps you noticed a certain three (3) letters in the
> > names of the releases that the "jocks on sourceforge" have made. "PRE".
> > "PRE" means "THIS FUCKING SHIT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO WORK YET BECAUSE WE'RE
> > STILL DEVELOPING IT SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ***CONSTRUCTIVE*** TO
> > SAY OR CODE TO CONTRIBUTE BACK THE FUCK OFF". *straightening jacket* The
> > code coming out of the **PRE** 1.5 tree is considered alpha quality at
> > best - Somedays a good Beta quality.
> >
> > We all have wishlists. We all would like Netatalk to be *the* AppleShare
> > server on ALL *IXish machines. We would like to have a lot of success,
> > meet 100% of peoples feature requests, and in general have a fun time
> > doing it - And it's getting there. Slowly.
> >
> > So, Mr. Quigley, although your views and opinions are welcome - I'll be
> > the last person to suppress that - I think you should get your facts in
> > line before making inflammatory statements about the people who are
> > trying to make a product you *CONSUME* as good as it can be- People,
> > mind you, who aren't getting paid for this. People who do it so that
> > they can actually CONTRIBUTE to something, instead of COMPLAINING about
> > it. Inflammatory, derogatory statements like yours only hurts production
> > as it disheartens those who work hard on this project. If you aren't a
> > coder - That's cool - Can you write docs? Maybe English isn't your first
> > language so you could translate them into other languages? Perhaps you
> > could use a debugger and send on debugging symbols to make the
> > bug-hunters lives a little easier? Hell, we could all probably use
> > bigger harddrives, more RAM, a couple days of "pay" to take time off
> > from our busy lives and spend the day coding and bug-hunting, maybe an
> > OS X server to give us something to test on. There's a LOT of ways you
> > can help- And you've already found one grevious way to hurt.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Matthew Keller
> > Enterprise System Analyst
> > Computing & Technology Services
> > Information Services Division
> > State University of NY at Potsdam
> >
> > http://mattwork.potsdam.edu/
> >
>
> --
>
> Matthew Keller
> Enterprise System Analyst
> Computing & Technology Services
> Information Services Division
> State University of NY at Potsdam
>
> http://mattwork.potsdam.edu/