Re: one apple volume and different users


Subject: Re: one apple volume and different users
From: Mac Conin (mconin@euc.de)
Date: Wed Apr 25 2001 - 16:08:30 EDT


ok

it looks now like
drwxrwsrwx 19 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 20:51 .
drwxrwxrwx 21 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 00:00 ..
drwxrwsr-x 23 other2 users 4096 Apr 21 16:13 .AppleDesktop
drwxrwsr-x 2 other users 4096 Apr 25 20:51 .AppleDouble
drwxrwsr-x 4 mconin users 4096 Mär 7 08:16 directory
drwxrwsr-x 4 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 20:50 Network Trash Folder

and within the Trash folder
drwxrwsr-x 4 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 20:50 .
drwxrwsrwx 19 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 20:51 ..
drwxrwsr-x 2 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 20:39 .AppleDouble
drwxrwsr-x 3 mconin users 4096 Apr 25 20:51 Trash Can #2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 other users 0 Apr 25 20:39 Trash Can Usage Map

for my first testings it _seems_ that now different users can place
files into the trash.
but also it _seems_ that every user is capable of taking files out of
the bin (the trash).

I don't think this is really worth to mention while
the files are already shared - but anyway.. I can live with that.

If we wouldn't work with Xpress (and its mechanism of stamping im ages
as modified),
I would prefer to place a symbolic link in each users home directory
pointing to the share,
giv'em an own .AppleVolumes definition and everythings would be fine.

As a programmer it couldn't be much hassle to generate a 'Trash Can#user'
while the user enters the volume.

charlie wood wrote:
>
> The Network Trash Folder (on my server) is created at the root level of the
> shared volume, and everyone has permissions to do what is needed to anything
> inside the shared volume directory.
>
> More clearly:
>
> My shared volume is:
>
> /home/Projects/
>
> here's an ls -la of that folder (for security, the actual project names have
> been renamed to "Project A):
>
> drwxr-xr-x 19 root users 4096 Apr 18 11:19 .
> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Apr 9 16:24 ..
> drwxrwsr-x 16 cameronm users 4096 Mar 29 16:14 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 7 allisonb users 4096 Jan 25 11:11 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 8 charlie users 4096 Jan 11 11:01 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 13 sharic users 4096 Apr 23 11:43 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 3 charlie users 4096 Feb 13 14:38 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 10 allisonb users 4096 Apr 9 09:16 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 6 jen users 4096 Apr 23 14:16 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 5 allisonb users 4096 Apr 18 10:30 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 9 allisonb users 4096 Apr 24 13:29 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 3 allisonb users 4096 Mar 30 13:17 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 3 allisonb users 4096 Mar 30 13:17 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 5 allisonb users 4096 Apr 23 14:32 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 3 allisonb users 4096 Apr 19 11:52 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 6 allisonb users 4096 Apr 23 13:28 Network Trash Folder
> drwxrwsr-x 6 allisonb users 4096 Apr 10 22:50 Project A
> drwxrwsr-x 3 allisonb users 4096 Nov 14 16:43
> TheVolumeSettingsFolder
> drwxrwsr-x 4 allisonb users 4096 Apr 12 12:25 Project A
>
> Notice the permissions settings for everything. The user bit is on, because
> the permissions for the parent directory (/home/Projects/) also has the same
> permission setting. Therefore everything inside it gets the same permissions
> as the parent, thereby eliminating the need to monkey with individual
> permissions all the time. As long as a user is in the group, they can do
> whatever they want in the folder. This includes the Trash Folder, and the
> Volume Settings folder. Both of the latter are important for individual Mac
> users, and the way that they can interact with the files.
>
> I have not run across the multiple trash cans on my server so perhaps I'm
> not answering your specific question very well <shrug> :-)
>
> What version of netatalk are you using? Perhaps what is being called Trash
> Can #2 is, in fact the same directory as Network Trash Folder. Try the
> permissions experiment I just mentioned as see if that works.
>
> </charlie>
>
> -------original message-------
>
> > From: Mac Conin <mconin@euc.de>
> > Organization: EUC Online Service GmbH
> > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:55:19 +0200
> > To: charlie wood <charlie@id-inc.com>
> > Cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" <netatalk-admins@umich.edu>
> > Subject: Re: one apple volume and different users
> > Resent-From: netatalk-admins@umich.edu
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:01:56 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> > nope
> >
> > afpd creates a directory Trash Can #2 and only this.
> > It doesn' matter how I set the rights (I guess).
> >
> > shouldn't be there other directories à la Trash Can #5 or whatever?
> >
> > If it's a permission problem who sould be the owner of the Network Trash
> > Folder?
> >
> >
> > charlie wood wrote:
> >>
> >> I had a similar problem.
> >> Fixed it thusly:
> >> chmod 2775 /home/Projects/Network Trash Folder
> >>
> >> where /home/Projects/ is the path to the server volume.
> >>
> >> eh?
> >>
> >> </charlie>
> >>
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> >>
> >> -------original message-------
> >>
> >>> From: Mac Conin <mconin@euc.de>
> >>> Organization: EUC Online Service GmbH
> >>> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:50:50 +0200
> >>> To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" <netatalk-admins@umich.edu>
> >>> Subject: one apple volume and different users
> >>> Resent-From: netatalk-admins@umich.edu
> >>> Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:00:56 -0400 (EDT)
> >>>
> >>> Hmm,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does that work?
> >>>
> >>> one apple volume and several users accessing this volume.
> >>> how do I get differnt trashs for each user for that volume?
> >>>
> >>> at the moment only the first user who put something into the
> >>> trash is capable of using the trash. each following action
> >>> from other users causing the error (something like that):
> >>> 'you can't put files into the trash. You can delete the files directlly'
> >>>
> >>> this drives me nuts
> >
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